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Monday, December 04, 2006

Just when you thought things were safe around here, and the controversy dies down, it's happening again. I am referring, of course, to the new trend of Chassidic Rebbes gracing those of us in Lakewood with their presence. Skver has come and gone, and on the heels of their successful (!) visit, the Satmar Rebbe is on his way. Mark your calendars, Parshas Vayechi. Dont know any details, but the debate remains - Hasidim - do we need 'em? Is this just another sign of Lakewood's "Growing Up", no longer a small town centered on the yeshiva, we now have all types?
Back in R' Aharon's days, out of respect for the Rosh Hayeshiva, people did not wear shtreimels in yeshiva's bais medrash. In R' Shneur's days, he allowed chasidish shtibles, but they were not called "Ger" or "Skver". When I moved to Lakewood 16 yrs ago, I could go months without seeing a Chasid. Now, driving along I see Chasidish ladies with hats and stuff walking along with their strollers, and the occasional shtreimel in Shoprite motzie shabbos. They are definitely here. So if the Rebbes want to visit, and there is an interest in them by their own people, I am okay with that. But what is the deal with bringing along 1,000 chasidim for shabbos? I mean, please. Isnt that overdoing it a little? In any case, my feeling is that if it brings to achdus, and understanding of each other's ways, it can only do good. We need more togetherness, instead of Us against Them. That does nobody good. The Roshei Yeshiva and Rabbis were very respectful of the Rebbe, and that seems like a diplomatic kind of thing to do. But my cynical side tells me that is not why they are coming. Obviously the word has gotten out among them that Lakewood donors give generously and it is well worth their time to cultivate the$e Relation$hip$.

6 Comments:

At 9:05 PM, Blogger Independent Frum Thinker said...

Please see what I wrote on my blog to explain this new phenomenon. It does not bring to Achdus at all.

The Chassidim feel they need to come here to be “Mechazeik” the “lowly” Litvishe Yidden in Lakewood. The condescending attitude is uncalled for. They should realize that the Litvishe have a way of life different than theirs, and there is no need to import their flavor to Lakewood.

http://independentfrumthinker.blogspot.com/2006/11/truth-behind-skvere-rebbes-visit-to.html

 
At 10:31 AM, Blogger David_on_the_Lake said...

What IFT is saying is true...
However there is a story from the Chofetz Chaim...after a group of chassidim drove his son out a town once..and he was very hurt..
His father said..the Halacha is that if someone is chasing a rodef (murderer)...then if he damages something in the process he's not obligated to pay for the damaged caused..
Chassidim have with their zeal fought back against Reform...and in the process have hurt us as well...for that they are Potur..

 
At 7:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

how have they hurt us?

 
At 6:39 AM, Blogger ggggg said...

I have no problem with Rebbes or Chasidim per se, BUT the only reason they come here is to leave a few days later with MONEY that should really be going to our local mosdos and Aniyim! Our local institutions are drowning under unbearable budgetary pressures, yet the locals would rather spend their money with Rebbes for a photo op than step up to the plate for OUR mosdos.

If the Lakewood Roshei Yeshiva would go raise funds for BMG in Skver or Monroe or Williamsburgh, do you think they would come back with more than pocket change?

It is hypocrisy of the highest form and I am against it!

Keep Lakewood's money in Lakewood!

 
At 8:01 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

sure people should support local institutions, but ultimately each person has a choice as to where his tzedaka dollars go. the Rebbe is not forcing them.
It is true though, that we would not collect as much by them and you can pat us on the back for that, because we are more open minded than they are, and those of us that give them money (not me, of course) are doing so cuz we appreciate the value of what they do unlike them who think we are all a bunch of goyim and think their way is the only way.

 
At 9:50 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

omg totally rite abt the banana clip thing. if they told kids in my grade to stop wearing them, theyd be sooo turned off.it happens to be i dont wear em cuz im not exactly the kid who goes out and buys kewl stuff but they do look so much nicer then a ponytail which then again mite be a 'problem'

 

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